What New Yorkers Need to Know

July 8th, 9:30 p.m. — It seems that a notification went out at 7:15 p.m. this evening that the first “air sampling” and “dispersement” of perfluorocarbon gasses in NYC subways and streets will begin tomorrow morning, July 9th, at 6 a.m., certainly less than 24 hour notice. See post here: New Yorkers as Guinea Pigs? No Offense to Guinea Pigs — Less than 12 Hr Notice Before Release of Gasses in NYC Subways/Streets

Previously:

The New York City Police Department (NYPD) is in charge of a program in which the city agency has approved for Brookhaven National Lab to conduct a “test” by which they will release gasses into the New York City subway system between July 8th and July 28th, 2013, on three non-consecutive days.

There has been no oversight by the New York City Council, NYC Department of Health or any other official body over these plans to spray chemical gasses in NYC’s subways and on the streets ostensibly to study the dispersal patterns of chemicals and gasses in a potential terrorist attack.

We are greatly troubled by the lack of the City’s oversight and the assumed harmlessness of these gasses, when at least one of the gasses, under certain conditions, is far from harmless.

· The tests will be done below ground in the subways and above ground on the streets.

· The public WILL NOT be told where these gases will be released.

· The public WILL NOT be told what quantity they will be released in.

· The public WILL NOT be told the names of the 7 perfluorocarbons that will be used.

· The public WILL NOT be told the results of the test.

· No government health official or BNL scientist has thus far publicly certified that the perfluorocarbons that will be used are in fact safe.

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From toxicology specialist Dr. Robert Simon:

How will NYPD control how much any person will inhale? Displacing oxygen in the lungs could be fatal for those with pulmonary disease, heart disease, etc. This experiment in the NY Subway system is a very poor choice of a test site. For such an experiment there must be a controlled population where the adverse health effects of SF6 can be known and monitored. Just releasing it into the subway without any knowledge of the health of persons who may be in the subway at the same time is unacceptable.

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Overview of Discussion July 1st with Brookhaven National Lab Re: Tests

From: Curtis Cost:

I called Ms. Kay Cordtz at the Brookhaven National Laboratory (BNL) on Monday July 1, 2013, regarding the air tests that will be conducted in New York during the month of July using perfluorocarbons. The BNL has been commissioned by the NYPD to conduct these tests. I obtained Ms. Cordtz’s name and phone number from a press release put out by the (BNL). Her contact information is: Kay Cordtz, (631) 344-2719, kcordtz@bnl.gov. The following are the results of my conversation with her. Please feel free to contact her to confirm this information. Let me stress that this was not a formal interview. I simply called and asked some questions. Feel free to share this information with others.

1. The tests will not start on July 1 due to the weather, and are scheduled to begin July 8, depending on the weather. There will be a 24 hour notice issued before the gases will be released. These notices will be issued on the BNL’s Facebook and twitter accounts. It will also be announced through the news media. In addition, they will be setting up a website where this information will be placed.

2. The tests are not limited to the subways. They will also be testing ABOVE GROUND in order to track the flow of these gases through the streets of New York’s five boroughs. (This means that whether someone is in the subways, walking in the streets, driving their car or in their home or office, they will be breathing in these gases.)

3. Information about the locations where the gases will be released will not be made public.

4. Seven different perfluorocarbons will be used, but the exact ones will not be made public. (This is noteworthy because some perfluorocarbons are considered to be far more dangerous than others.)

5. How much of these gases will be dispersed at the different locations will also not be made public. Ms. Cordtz did assure me that the amount would be in parts per million even though she would not say how much would actually be released at each site.

6. The results of the tests will only be given to the NYPD, but not to the general public.

7. I asked her which government health officials have certified that the perfluorocarbons that will be used are in fact safe. She indicated that while no government health official has certified that these perfluorocarbons are safe, the scientists at BNL have been working with these gases for many years. I asked her which of those scientists has publicly certified that the perfluorocarbons to be used are safe, but she could not name any. She did say that she could look into that.

8. The BNL press release states the following: “Perfluorocarbon tracer gases (PFTs) present no health or environmental hazard.” I asked Ms. Cordtz about this claim in light of the various websites including wikipedia, which point out studies linking perfluorocarbons to: infertility, menopause, birth defects, liver damage and thyroid damage among others. In addition, it is a greenhouse gas that can damage the environment. Ms. Cordtz questioned the reliability of such websites and stated that she was not a scientist and that she could find a scientist on their staff who could better address such questions.

To summarize:

· The tests will be done below ground in the subways and above ground on the streets.

· The public WILL NOT be told where theses gases will be released.

· The public WILL NOT be told what quantity they will be released in.

· The public WILL NOT be told the names of the 7 perfluorocarbons that will be used.

· The public WILL NOT be told the results of the test.

· No government health official or BNL scientist has thus far publicly certified that the perfluorocarbons that will be used are in fact safe.

Notes:
Given the fact so much vital information is being withheld it would be very difficult to asses any ill effects that the public might experience from this test. If there is a dramatic increase in infertility, birth defects, liver damage etc, it would be hard for anyone to establish a link between the perfluorocarbons used in this test and their condition.

Any harm to the environment including the water supply and wildlife, would also be hard to assess given all of the secrecy. A test of this size, involving millions of people should require far greater transparency and a public debate before it is initiated. I have provided some references below which discuss the dangers linked to perfluorocarbons.

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This section below is in formation:

New York City Police Department and Brookhaven Lab to Conduct Airflow Study In New York City Streets and Subways This Summer

Exposure to Perfluorocarbons is Linked to the Onset of Menopause

Fluorocarbon Environmental and health concerns: here.

Epidemiologic Evidence on the Health Effects of Perfluorooctanoic Acid (PFOA): See here

Perfluorocarbons May Disrupt Hormones, Menopause

Perfluorocarbon exposure, gender and thyroid function in the C8 Health Project

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It has been suggested that one of the perfluorocarbons is SF6 — if that is so, here is info on that chemical:

Physiological effects and precautions of just one of these gases, SF6 — there are six others that are unknown and will NOT be known:As with all gases, the density of SF6 affects the resonance frequencies of the vocal tract, thus changing drastically the vocal sound qualities, or timbre, of those who inhale it. On the other hand, it does not affect the vibrations of the vocal folds. The density of sulfur hexafluoride is relatively high at room temperature and pressure due to the gas’s large molar mass. Unlike helium which has a molar mass of about 4 grams/mol and gives the voice a childish and “Donald Duck” quality, SF6 has a molar mass of about 146 g/mol, and the velocity of sound through the gas is 0.44 times the speed of sound in air due to the large inertia of a SF6 molecule. For comparison, the molar mass of air, which is about 80% nitrogen and 20% oxygen, is approximately 30 g/mol. Inhalation of SF6 causes a lowering of the timbre, or frequency of the formants, of the vocal tract, by contrast with inhalation of helium, which raises it. [20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_hexafluoride#cite_note-Wolfe-20>. Like helium, sulfur hexafluoride is a non-toxic gas, yet by displacing oxygen in the lungs, it also carries the risk of asphyxia if too much is inhaled. [21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_hexafluoride#cite_note-21>

3 thoughts on “What New Yorkers Need to Know

  1. Paranoid freaks deliberately making more and more people sick. Kill all the geese and then gas the population as well. Well done weirdos.

  2. Thanks SO much for doing such an amazing job, I am going to spread your information as much as possible, you are so far the only website I’ve found giving great information about this craziness, I cannot believe this is happenning. We need a class action lawsuit.

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